I definitely agree with Kilroy here, laboring for AAAs is a pain when you can go for that triple star.

Besides, it always seems that I get AAAs more often when I just randomly play a song vs when I decide, "Okay, I'm going to AAA x".  Like the other day when I decided to randomly grab a set of DDR and got Sana Morette En Ente (not sure if thats spelled accurately) without even meaning to, and then went back a few days ago to get it for a pic and couldn't get under 3.  I'd much rather aim for a tri-star on a song where there is a window of excellents you can get within, so that a single off step doesn't void the entire song.

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-Gym shorts or cargo pants depending on if I'm playing ITG or DDR

-New Balance size 13 574s. <3 Bracket-whoring. 

I haven't noticed it at all...maybe a delay from your speakers or something?

Well seeing as Konami owns the rights to ITG, I don't see any problem here.

So I realize that there is a video section, but as its not upload based, why don't we post out non-youtube videos here?

QUOTE: piepiepie75

it's not very challenging for more advanced players like me. Add a 9 oni chart

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I'm sorry, what are you doing in this thread?  This is about making harder charts.  Not 9's.  9's are not hard.  Don't pretend to be an "advanced player" and then talk about 9's being challenging.

Like arch0wl said, the focus definitely needs to stray away from gimmicky BPM changes, and get back to physically demanding charts.  Chaos was cool and all, but that sort of stuff gets old really fast, not to mention that it hardly requires any energy, merely repetition and memorization of BPM changes. 

And AceJay, maybe one day you'll get to the point where you'd rather be playing Quasar on a pad.  Then what? Are you saying that the multitude of serious players who already do these things should be excluded from content that challenges their abilities?

EDIT: board does not have quote feature. 

 EDIT #2: He was talking about DDR Fanboyism, just so you know. 

TimeSpaceMage, way to go buddy.  Clearly his reference to Quasar was not at random.

You just got TROLLED. 

Yes, you're right, there are a lot of pump players who hated on Pump Pro before it came out.  My friend who has the cabinet I was talking about? Jboy, yeah, he hated on it.  Now he says its pretty cool.  It always seemed to me that the pump players needlessly hated on Pro because it changed so many aspects of the pump series, and, stuck in a rut, just like DDR players when ITG came out, they *****ed about it.  Not to say in the slightest that there weren't legitimate fears and reasons behind some of the negative reactions towards Pro, but a lot of it was just ignorance.

And my example of J-Pop was stereotypical, yes, but that was on purpose.  When you ask someone who doesn't play DDR about the games, I can guarantee that 9 times out of 10 the words "asian" and "j-pop" are going to come up.  When I talked about J-pop, I was referencing the desirability to play the game from an outsiders point of view, based on the stereotypical genres associated with it.  You're "SOOOO tired of people complaining about J-pop in DDR" because thats how everyone who doesn't play views it.  Thank you for that quote to emphasize my point beautifully.  Casual gamers will not be attracted to play it because of their stereotypes. 

And as a side note, I just went and played LotR.  You know the kind of high pitched 8th note stuff that acts as the melody in that section? Also, do you know what Add-Stepping/Metronome Stepping is?  If you know what both of those are, it makes perfect sense. 

You say ITG couldn't last?

Ridiculous, and I'd like to see try you back it up with empirical evidence.

I know a good deal of people from the Rocky Mount region (In North Carolina, if you've never heard of the tournaments, which you should have) who STARTED dance games with ITG.  Within MONTHS, they could play and pass consecutively 11s and the majority of 12s.  This isn't to say that everyone can become good this fast, but to say that people are deterred from playing ITG because of its difficulty is absurd.

The only reason you say ITG is too hard to appeal to the casual player is because you can't play the expert charts, but you can read them.  The simple fact that you can contemplate and understand that Summer expert has intense 16th runs at the end is because you've been playing long enough to understand the arrows.  Someone who has never played a dance game isn't going to be able to look at Bloodrush vs. Waka Laka and tell that one is significantly harder than the other.  Similarly, I'm sure when you started playing DDR, and looked at Max 300 on Heavy, you may have thought "Man, how am I ever going to be able to do that?". Yet that didn't deter you from playing DDR did it? The challenge to one day be able to simply pass it, let alone AA or AAA it only made playing more fun.

And another thing, the music in ITG attracts a lot more casual players, standard gamers if you will, than DDR could ever hope to.  Honestly, if you took a survey of 1000 gamers at random, what are the odds of J-Pop coming up as being a genre enjoyed by a majority, or even a significant number of people polled? 

Honestly, I'm detecting a lot of ignorant posts in this thread.  ITG has mostly hip hop music? What? Have you even played it before?  

And piepiepie, I'd really like you to name a few ITG charts that don't make sense.  And also, I'm going to hazard a guess that you've never played Pump Pro.  My friend got the upgrade for his Zero Cabinet, and tells me its quite good.  I haven't personally played it, so I don't have any opinion to give, but its pretty clear by your tone that you haven't played it either, which makes you look pretty stupid because you're bashing it without ever playing it.

ITT: People try to be cool by pretending like every forum is /b/

Yes, I agree AgoraPerry.  I think the competition between the two games will promote better quality, on-sync games like SuperNOVA, because the two games are definitely in fierce competition.

I mean, they're both owned by different companies, and are both still being manufactured.

Oh wait.